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	<title>[ The Daily Fungo: Detroit Tigers Baseball ] &#187; Cameron Maybin</title>
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		<title>Tigers Feeling Buyer&#8217;s Remorse?</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyfungo.com/2008/05/08/tigers-feeling-buyers-remorse/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike McClary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The other day I sent an instant message to Ian Casselberry asking if, perchance, the Tigers may be feeling some buyer&#8217;s remorse regarding the Miguel Cabrera trade.
I admitted to Ian that it&#8217;s way early but that doesn&#8217;t mean that panic is not setting in everywhere around Comerica Park &#8212; but never at Fungo HQ!
So, I&#8217;m [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.dailyfungo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/imagescarsalesman.jpg" border="0" alt="CarSalesman.jpg" hspace="10" vspace="15" width="178" height="169" align="right" />The other day I sent an instant message to <strong><a href="http://www.blessyouboys.com" target="_blank">Ian Casselberry</a></strong> asking if, perchance, the Tigers may be feeling some buyer&#8217;s remorse regarding the <strong><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7163" target="_blank">Miguel Cabrera</a></strong> trade.</p>
<p>I admitted to Ian that it&#8217;s <em>way</em> early but that doesn&#8217;t mean that panic is <em>not</em> setting in everywhere around Comerica Park &#8212; but never at Fungo HQ!</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m lobbing it out there: Are the Tigers wondering what they signed themselves up for over the next seven years?</p>
<p>Maybe.</p>
<p>Fast-forward to this afternoon and the latest installment of <strong>Jayson Stark</strong>&#8217;s <em><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&amp;id=3386182&amp;campaign=rss&amp;source=MLBHeadlines">Rumblings and Grumblings</a></em> on ESPN.com. This time he reviews the off-season trades and the Tigers&#8217; deals are getting anything but passing grades.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>6. Braves-Tigers</strong> (<em>RHP Jair Jurrjens</em> and <em>OF Gorkys Hernandez</em> for <em>Edgar Renteria</em>): &#8220;At this point, Atlanta has won that deal,&#8221; said one scout. &#8220;Jurrjens [4-2, 2.84] has been their most consistent starter.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Ouch.</p>
<p>And if you think that&#8217;s a harsh assessment, get a load of this:</p>
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<blockquote><p><strong>9. Tigers-Marlins</strong> <em>(Miguel Cabrera and LHP Dontrelle Willis for LHP Andrew Miller, OF Cameron Maybin, C Mike Rabelo, RHP Burke Badenhop, RHP Eulogia De La Cruz and RHP Dallas Trahern)</em>: We won&#8217;t be able to judge Florida&#8217;s half of this deal until about 2010. And Willis has been a mess. But the surprise is that Cabrera has been: (a) an offensive disappointment, (b) such a defensive disaster at third base that he had to be shifted to first within three weeks, and (c) so lackadaisical that players on other teams are privately questioning whether he flicked on his cruise-control switch after signing an eight-year, $153.3-million contract this spring. &#8220;I expected him to come in there and be superman,&#8221; said one scout. &#8220;He&#8217;s been anything but that.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Ugly stuff.</p>
<p>Ready for more? Each week Stark touches base with big-league scouts on what they are seeing and hearing. It sure looks like <strong>no one</strong> likes what they see from Cabrera.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;For $150 million, you&#8217;d like to at least see him run a ball out. I watched him for a week, and I think there was one ball all week where he tried to extend himself. That was a double-play ball, and he was still like 4.8 [seconds] getting down the line. On a routine ground ball, he&#8217;s 5.2, maybe 5.1. It&#8217;s ridiculous to even pull the clock out.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>So, is it too soon to call this trade a blunder? Of course it is. And it would be a lot worse if, say, <strong>Cameron Maybin</strong> were tearing up the National League.</p>
<p>But you have to wonder if the Tigers brass is wishing they could take a mulligan&#8230;if not on the mega-deal with the Marlins, then at least on the month of April.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>Vance Wilson&#8217;s St. Patrick&#8217;s (Birth)Day Celebration</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyfungo.com/2008/03/17/vance-wilsons-st-patricks-birthday-celebration/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike McClary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Three quick hits:

This past weekend my wife and I traveled to Indian Wells, Calif., to watch the second round of the Pacific Life Open tennis tournament.


When you take away the two-hour line to park and the gale-force winds, we had a great time watching some big-name players including Lindsay Davenport, Ana Ivanovic, Carlos Moya and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.dailyfungo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/imagescatcher.jpg" alt="Catcher.jpg" border="0" width="219" height="138" />Three quick hits:</p>
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<li>This past weekend my wife and I traveled to Indian Wells, Calif., to watch the second round of the <b><a href="http://www.pacificlifeopen.com/1/home/">Pacific Life Open</a></b> tennis tournament.
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<p>
When you take away the two-hour line to park and the gale-force winds, we had a great time watching some big-name players including <strong>Lindsay Davenport</strong>, <strong>Ana Ivanovic</strong>, <strong>Carlos Moya</strong> and defending champ <strong>Rafael Nadal</strong>.</p>
<p>
<p>
Between matches I pulled out my recent issue of <em>Sports Illustrated</em> and read about youngsters and teams making noise in big-league camps. The first snippet was on Tigers phenom <strong>Rick Porcello</strong>:<br />
<blockquote>Already Porcello, who has a repertoire of a mid-90s fastball, curve, slider and changeup is drawing comparisons to Josh Beckett (and even Jim Palmer) and stirring talk of a possible late-summer debut.</p></blockquote>
<p>Jim Palmer? No pressure there. Though, with all the young talent the Tigers have brought along &#8212; or traded &#8212; in the past few years, I find myself longing for the days of <strong>Sparky Anderson</strong>&#8217;s predictions. Can you imagine what Sparky would have said about <strong>Justin Verlander</strong>, <strong>Curtis Granderson</strong>, <strong>Cameron Maybin</strong>, <strong>Andrew Miller</strong> and Porcello? </p>
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And while I&#8217;m glad the Tigers are high on Porcello, why even toy with a post-Sept. 1 callup? What&#8217;s the rush?</li>
<li>With a name like Michael Patrick McClary you can imagine that St. Patrick&#8217;s Day is a big deal in my family. Yet, March 17 is probably a much bigger day for Tigers catcher <strong>Vance Wilson</strong> who happens to have the good fortune of a St. Patrick&#8217;s Day birthday. He&#8217;s 35 today.</li>
<li>Did you happen to catch the <strong>Dontrelle Willis</strong> topic on ESPN&#8217;s The Sports Reporters on Sunday? It appeared that they needed a hook to talk about the Tigers and asked the panel if the D-Train would be running on time this year now that he&#8217;s with a better team. The consensus? A resounding &#8220;yeah, probably.&#8221;<br />
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		<title>The Monday Report</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyfungo.com/2007/11/12/the-monday-report-for-nov-12/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike McClary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My son woke me up at 5:45 this morning so I had some time to catchup on my reading and thinking&#8230;

Call me naive, but I thought the Kenny Rogers thing would be a slam dunk, even with The Scott Boras Factor. Now that Rogers, who turned 43 on Saturday, is testing the market â€” the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son woke me up at 5:45 this morning so I had some time to catchup on my reading and thinking&#8230;
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<li>Call me naive, but I thought the <strong>Kenny Rogers</strong> thing would be a slam dunk, even with The <strong>Scott Boras</strong> Factor. Now that Rogers, who turned 43 on Saturday, is testing the market â€” the market for a mid-40s pitcher coming off a season virtually lost to serious injury that is â€”Â one has to wonder if the Tigers have used up the patience they reserve for dealing with Boras.Â From everything I&#8217;ve read, most still expect a deal to get hammered out. And I tend to think so too if only because <strong>Dave Dombrowski</strong> doesn&#8217;t seem to be a cut-off-the-nose-to-spite-the-face kind of guy.Speaking of Rogers, I thought I&#8217;d stumbled upon major news over at <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/With-Rogers-out-of-picture-Tigers-seek-out-Will;_ylt=AvfBqqc5XY0w0dLrdjm24tCpu7YF?urn=mlb,53210">Yahoo! Sports</a> when I read in this Tigers rumor:<br />
<blockquote>According to the Detroit Free Press, the Detroit Tigers and free agent lefty Kenny Rogers have parted ways.Â Â </p></blockquote>
<p>If you read to <a href="http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071110/SPORTS02/711100378/1050">the story referenced in the piece</a> you&#8217;ll see that nowhere does it say Rogers isn&#8217;t coming back. Perhaps a little fact checking would help.I&#8217;m intrigued by the <strong>Dontrelle Willis</strong> thing but can&#8217;t fathom what it would take to acquire him (for starters, <strong>Brandon Inge</strong>, perhaps?). Sure seems like a drastic change of course going from re-signing Rogers to dealing for Willis.Ah, but you gotta love the smell of hickory on the Hot Stove.</li>
<li>Our man <a href="http://www.blessyouboys.com"><strong>Ian Casselberry</strong></a> notified me of the <strong>Omar Infante</strong>-for-<strong>Jacque Jones</strong> <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=ApI4p3DT9Y58umtIU7sO8PP.gYl4?slug=txtigerscubtrade&amp;prov=st&amp;type=lgns">trade</a> this afternoon. I think it&#8217;s safe to say Ian and I were both underwhelmed by the move. As <strong>Jon Paul Morosi</strong> <a href="http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071112/SPORTS02/71112020/1048/rss03">suggests</a>, this is likely a stop-gap solution until <strong>Cameron Maybin</strong> is ready for prime time, all the time. If that&#8217;s the case, I supposed I can live with it.</li>
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<blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 40px; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-style: none; padding: 0px"><p>Still, you have to believe that somewhere in the Dominican Republic, <strong>Timo Perez</strong> is wondering what he has to do to become more than a September call up.But probably not in those words.</p></blockquote>
<ul>
<li>If you missed it, <strong>Joel Zumaya</strong> turned 23 on Friday. Here&#8217;s hoping his birthday wish was for health and wellness. And, while the Lions were <a href="http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071112/SPORTS01/711120344/1049/SPORTS01">stinking up</a> University of Phoenix Stadium yesterday, <strong>Jason Grilli</strong> and <strong>Chuck Hernandez</strong> were celebrating birthdays. A belated #31 to Grilli and #47 to Hernandez. To help you plan your card and gift shopping, here are the upcoming Tigers birthdays of note: Nov. 18 &#8211; <strong>Gary Sheffield</strong> (39);  Nov. 19 &#8211; <strong>Preston Larrison</strong> (27); Nov. 29 &#8211; <strong>Tony Giarratano</strong> (25); Nov. 30 &#8211; <strong>Ivan Rodriguez</strong> (36).Â </li>
<li>Mr. Casselberry and I also wondered aloud who the Tigers backup catcher would be on Opening Day. <strong>Vance Wilson</strong> should be ready to come back and reclaim his job, but <strong>Mike Rabelo</strong> certainly made a case for himself in 2007. Too bad one of them can&#8217;t play another position â€”Â or that <strong>Ryan Raburn</strong> can&#8217;t catch. Ian thinks Rabelo comes North. I&#8217;m undecided but tend to think Wilson will rejoin the team if he has anything that resembles a decent spring.</li>
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		<title>Analyze This</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyfungo.com/2007/08/24/analyze-this-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike McClary</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Trades & Rumors]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[ One of the most enjoyable regular columns on BaseballProspectus.com is Transaction Analysis by Christina Kahrl. The Tigers rarely garner much attention in TA but this week is the exception. When you look at the number of roster moves Detroit has made lately you will a) be astounded, and b) amused by Kahrl&#8217;s take on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family: verdana"> </span><img src="http://www.dailyfungo.com/images/BP.com.jpg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" width="176" height="43" align="right" />One of the most enjoyable regular columns on <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com" target="_blank">BaseballProspectus.com</a> is Transaction Analysis by <strong>Christina Kahrl</strong>. The Tigers rarely garner much attention in <em>TA</em> but this week is the exception. When you look at <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6623#DET" target="_blank">the number of roster moves</a> Detroit has made lately you will a) be astounded, and b) amused by Kahrl&#8217;s take on certain moves, including the <strong>Craig Monroe</strong> trade. In this installment, Monroe gets double coverage (Detroit and, of course, the Cubs).</p>
<p>First, a morsel of Kahrl&#8217;s <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6623#DET" target="_blank">Tigers assessment</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>[D]id hauling [Cameron Maybin] up really have to involve discarding Monroe? And what&#8217;s up with demoting Infante? In each case, my initial readiness to complain turned out to be pointless. Yes, Monroe&#8217;s really too good to be discarded this way, especially on a team that could use his bat against lefties, especially when that lineup&#8217;s carrying Casey&#8217;s carcass in one of its nine slots.Â </p></blockquote>
<p>Ouch.And now for the <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6623#CHN" target="_blank">Cubs</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m as ready to bang on Monroe for his limitations as the next stathead, but I actually like this well enough for the <span class="teamdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/team_audit.php?team=CHN" target="blank">Cubs</a></span>. He&#8217;s coming over to the weaker leagueâ€”just ask <span class="playerdef"><a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/kendaja01.php">Jason Kendall</a></span> if that hasn&#8217;t made a differenceâ€”plus he&#8217;s a guy who can play some center for a club that needs a center fielder.Â </p></blockquote>
<p>Monroe in center? Ooooh, <strong>Lou Piniella</strong> won&#8217;t much like the looks of that. This edition of <em>TA</em> is a must-read if only for the outstanding <strong>Gregg Jefferies</strong> reference â€” and half-hearted comparison to Maybin.</p>
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		<title>Putting the â€œDeadâ€ in Trade Deadline</title>
		<link>http://www.dailyfungo.com/2007/07/31/putting-the-%e2%80%9cdead%e2%80%9d-in-trade-deadline/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mike McClary</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those of us old enough to remember when Pat Gillick was general manager of the Toronto Blue Jays (before moving on to similar roles with the Orioles, Mariners and his current employer, the Phillies), may be thinking of him today when pondering the Tigers approach to the non-waiver trade deadline.In the late 1980s, Gillick earned [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of us old enough to remember when <strong>Pat Gillick</strong> was general manager of the Toronto Blue Jays (before moving on to similar roles with the Orioles, Mariners and his current employer, the Phillies), may be thinking of him today when pondering the Tigers approach to the non-waiver trade deadline.<img src="http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/gillick_p011023.jpg" align="right" border="1" height="190" hspace="10" vspace="10" width="190" />In the late 1980s, Gillick earned the nickname &#8220;Stand Pat&#8221; primarily because he would do just that at the trade deadline and leave Blue Jays&#8217; fans scratching their collective noggins until Opening Night at Maple Leaf Gardens.Now that I&#8217;ve had a few hours to ponder the Tigers lack-tivity, I&#8217;m surprisingly relieved. What I found throughout the day as I listened to coverage on XM Radio and on ESPN, was that I was more anxious to learn who the Tigers would <em>give up</em> in a trade more so than who they acquired.The Tigers were not giving up <strong>Cameron Maybin</strong>; No drama there. And, given how fragile the Tigers&#8217; pitching staff has proven to be this season, I couldn&#8217;t fathom the Tigers peddling the solid arms currently tending the farms in Toledo, Erie, Oneonta, Comstock Park and Lakeland.I&#8217;ll admit I&#8217;m a little late to this party.Our man in Connecticut, <strong>Peter Fuhrmeister</strong>, commented in <a href="http://www.detroittigerspodcast.com/2007/07/28/the-detroit-tigers-podcast-24-angels-10-tigers-3/" target="_blank">podcast #24</a> that he didn&#8217;t want to see the Tigers make a move at the deadline. He&#8217;s content to ride out this season with what the Tigers have to offer in the bully. <strong>John Milton</strong>, <strong>my brother</strong> and I all disagreed with Peter but managed to avoid calling him nuts.After watching the first game of the Angels series, we were stinging from the dismal pitching performance on Friday night. Two games later, you could not convince me that a better, reasonably priced bullpen solution wasn&#8217;t out there. Somewhere. (Could the Tigers swallow some pride â€” and salary â€” to bring back <strong>Jamie Walker</strong>?)Today, Peter, as usual, looks to be the wise man.And now that I&#8217;ve had time to think about it, I&#8217;m willing to accept that a pair of healed, experienced arms are on the way in <strong>Fernando Rodney</strong> and <strong>Joel Zumaya</strong>. If they are back to full strength, the Tigers should be okay. I&#8217;m also willing to concede (again) that this team is going through a particularly grueling stretch of baseball right now. A couple of wins, a day off and a healthy back-end of the bullpen should put the Tigers back in business.If not, maybe <strong>Dave Dombrowski</strong> can phone Gillick and see what arms he&#8217;s willing to part with for a package of <strong>Jason Grilli</strong>, <strong>Craig Monroe</strong> and <strong>Omar Infante</strong>.I can almost hear Gillick&#8217;s response now: &#8220;Well, <strong>Jose Mesa</strong>&#8217;s available&#8230;&#8221;<em><strong>Update:</strong></em> <strong>Jason Beck</strong> <a href="http://beck.mlblogs.com/beck/2007/07/nothing_was_clo.html">tells us</a> what the Tigers had brewing today. Wasn&#8217;t much.</p>
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